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letters from the Mori Island principles

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in the merseyside UFO bulletin part 2 by

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Charles Lear in last week's blog we

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looked at some correspondence we came

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across in the January February 1969

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merseyside UFO bulletin between

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unidentified aerial phenomena research

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Association director Gary Leslie and

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Maury Allen principals Fred Chrisman and

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Harold Dahl we started by looking at an

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exchange between Leslie and Dahl in a

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letter dated January 23 1967 Leslie

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asked all for copies of photos that were

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allegedly taken of a flying saucer a

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written statement from Dole and for doll

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to contact Chrisman and get a written

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statement from him as well doll replied

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in a letter dated August 22 1967 that he

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would allow Leslie to have copies of the

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photos would provide a statement that

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would have to be approved by Chrisman

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and would contact Chrisman but added

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that it would be unlikely that Chrisman

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would reply to Leslie Dahl went on to

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paint a picture of Chrisman that didn't

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seem to fit the facts that researchers

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looking into chrisman's life uncovered

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in contrast to what Dahl told Leslie to

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expect Leslie got a letter from Chrisman

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and this is what we're looking at this

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week according to the anonymous writer

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of the article containing the

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correspondence Leslie was still waiting

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for Doll's statement and copies of the

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photos in August and sent him a letter

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dated August 26

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1967. he thanked all for his reply and

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told him that if he could get him the

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material by October 15th there was a

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good chance of getting something about

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the case published in the December issue

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of saga magazine instead of a reply from

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dog Leslie got a letter from Chrisman

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dated September 5th

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1967. the letter begins with Christman

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informing Leslie that he has seen as

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correspondence with doll and does not

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approve of it saying doll Has Broken

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long-standing agreement between us he

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tells Leslie that the photos are not

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available that he doesn't want his

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personal life discussed in letters or in

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print and that the little interest he

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has in UFOs is far removed from being of

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interest to any organized group or those

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people that read Saga magazine he says

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that doll has little information that

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would interest you and that Leslie wrote

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all that he'd researched the news files

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and ads I do not pretend to be able to

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alter the newspapers of this nation

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Chrisman then breaks the UFO enthusiasts

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into three groups those seeking

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attention through Tales of Bizarre

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Adventures and messages from Spacemen

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those attempting to make money and a

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tiny third group with a serious

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scientific interest admirable but mostly

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fools Chrisman then proclaims that

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neither he nor doll have any interest in

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joining a UFO group as for Leslie's

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interest in matter that should be of

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public concern he says the public

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laughed away its right to be informed

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years ago Chrisman insists that the Mori

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island incident was not a hoax and that

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the Air Force and the FBI know this he

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asserts that he and dog don't want any

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publicity especially in the form of a

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magazine article and says the reason he

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seldom speaks on UFOs in front of groups

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is because of the time he has to spend

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afterwards turning down requests for him

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and Dahl to help people looking into

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Maury Island Chrisman apologizes for his

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abrupt answer to Leslie's letters to

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doll and hopes this will end the matter

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he closes saying we have no information

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for you yours truly Fred Chrisman Leslie

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is described in the article as having

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written an indignant letter to doll

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dated September 16

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1967. according to the article Leslie

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objected to Chrisman answering letter

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years addressed to doll he wondered why

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Chrisman gave him doll's address and

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noted chrisman's habit of addressing

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some of the more deep end groups thusly

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then received another letter from Dahl

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dated September 16th doll tells Leslie

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that at times he had been contacted by

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some very prominent speakers and

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investigators in the UFO picture he says

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he doesn't pay attention to most but

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respects the work of Dr Frank Strange's

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and that strangers had contacted him

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about organizing a three to four day

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conference in Washington or Oregon in

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December according to him strangers had

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an 80-minute movie that is well worth

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the time and the money to see he asks

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Leslie if you Opera would be interested

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in sponsoring the conference as he does

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not feel he has the ability to make it

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into what it should be Leslie then got

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another letter from Chrisman dated

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September 28 1962 7 which begins with

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Christman apologizing for having to

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again step into the correspondence

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between you and Dawn he says he is

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puzzled because he fills his command of

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English is good enough that he could

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present his and Dahl's position without

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hurting Leslie's feelings he explains

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that he is an industrial psychologist

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who deals with hard-headed businessmen

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and doesn't like to be always explaining

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why his name keeps popping up in UFO

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books that deal with the Maury island

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case he insists she is never been any

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man of mystery and is just trying to

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make a living but the people he has

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business relationships with reacted in a

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most Avid manner to UFO reports he says

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he is at a loss as to why people insist

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on making him the focal point of

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interest in a matter that happened over

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20 years ago that this sort of attention

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is bad for business that he only speaks

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to select groups and has a reputation

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for doing so Chrisman tells Leslie that

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he spoke with dog and that doll feels it

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is time to let up and cooperate with

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certain people why you I don't know he

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leaves it up to doll saying it's his

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doll's baby and that he won't interfere

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as long as Leslie handles it as he said

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he would and not with tongue-in-cheek

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making them look like fools according to

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Chrisman others had promised to handle

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the matter seriously and made them look

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not only as fools but as careless

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pranksters they cared not a wit that men

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died in the prank Chrisman closes the

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letter saying they'd return to Maury

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Island and found some startling things

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going on including there being no plants

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growing where the material had fallen

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and there being a federal project going

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on to remove and level the whole area

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according to him the place was posted

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and they explored until a Watchman came

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and removed us he says that on inquiry

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they found that government men of some

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agency took soil samples and photos many

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times over the years and that he and

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Dahl took photos and that Leslie may

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have some interest there the article

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ends with the writer giving details

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about what Leslie and his colleagues

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thought about the letters according to

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the writer they had suspicions that the

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letters were written by the same person

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based mainly on a comparison of the

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signatures Leslie was getting phone

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calls as well as letters from doll and

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mentioned a doll that his male was being

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opened and that he believed his phone

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was being tapped and heard no more from

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Mr Dahl after that Charles Lear is the

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author of The Flying Saucer

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